If you're using HCG alone, according to the study above where it was directly compared to TRT… For men who want to preserve their fertility, hCG … HCG vs Clomid Monotherapy. I take 100mg of Test Cyp 2x a week, and 250IU of HCG 2x a week. It will likely be cheaper that way. We evaluated patient age, treatment indication, hCG dosage, past … Everything performs as it should, they're just a … I take. I am 34, hit a plateau. How ya doin guys. Switched to trt @160mg a week, plus 1000iu hcg/week got me to 1060ng plus high normal free test. It's not a huge issue, but of course I'd prefer them to be larger. Go to a new one and try to get test. Right now I'm running some gear, but before that I suffered from hypogonadism, or low-T, which of course I will still have when I stop the gear. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), when used in small doses of two or three times per week with testosterone replacement, can reverse the decrease of intratesticular testosterone. In my professional opinion, HCG should always form part of your Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) protocol. My blood work looked fantastic on paper, but I felt terrible with the same symtomps prior. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the bodybuilding community. HCG alone raised my levels to normal, and helped with more ejaculate. I know it will take time to dial in AI dosage. You need some kind of AI with HCG monotherapy, make sure your doc gives you one. I hope not. There exists scant literature regarding the use of hCG monotherapy for the treatment of hypogonadism in men not interested in fertility. I changed to trt as soon as it was offered because my main goals are lifting/physique related and trt … Doctor Prescribed HCG Therapies Based on the studies, there are a few approaches here. Men's Health Boston, Brookline, MA, USA. Posted by 2 hours ago. I would even take it a bit forward and say that HCG monotherapy is even better than TRT + HCG therapy. Currently been on HCG monotherapy for 4 weeks now. In this article, we are going to understand what Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is and why it is used by men engaged in Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) programs. Unless of course the topic is Oestradiol, and the TRT & HOT group throw their toys out of the pram... TRT & Exercise vs Drugs - 'Hard Work vs A Cheeky Half' Hi all. Press J to jump to the feed. Archived. Honestly HCG is not a bad option to try, and I definitely feel better vs a SERM, TRT being the last option. News, articles, personal pictures, videos & advice on everything related to bodybuilding - nutrition, supplementation, training, contest preparation, and more. Either used simultaneously or hcg is used during the last weeks of cycle and a week after cycles end before pct is started. 34 does sound a little young, but if your T is low, then HRT is good to do. Close. I am 34, hit a plateau. Men often take HCG as an ancillary drug when injecting testosterone in order to maintain their fertility, but it can be used alone. For men who already have as many children as they want, Bio-identical Hormone Replacement Therapy with testosterone is best. Press J to jump to the feed. Testosterone was 700 on trough(morning before shot) while E2 sensitive shot up to 55. Close. hcg gets your natural production back up. However it is not a case of one or the other, they are used in conjunction. I searched gonadorelin vs. HCG yesterday! Never understood HCG mono. Here is information on hCG right out of the #1 book ever written on TRT. The higher doses lead to more problems. Your doctor sounds misinformed unless I am missing something, People always say don't take advice from the Internet the doctor knows best blah blah blah but a doctors word is not infallible. I then started TRT at 200mg cyp a week, 500 IUs of HCG (2 doses of 250), and 3x.5mg Arimidex. My doctor has prescribed HCG and AI to be taken along with supplemental testosterone. Men who take HCG by itself, as well as in conjunction with TRT, often report a greater sense of well-being. Curious of your experiences with HCG monotherapy and/or TRT. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. which is a completely different product. Here is a link to a vlog I did yesterday about the importance of earning your reward. hCG May Preserve Fertility in Men — Sperm Count Can Return After Discontinuing TRT Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) can often decrease sperm count, which is the main reason that men who still plan on having children will hold off on testosterone-based therapy and opt for hCG monotherapy … The third option is an aromatase inhibitor. For those on HCG monotherapy, this is because their testosterone levels are higher. Testosterone: The male sex hormone. My results have been amazing. Your doctor is fucking retarded. If using TRT, then 250 IU of HCG taken as an intramuscular injection (IM) daily is the approach recommended. 0. We present our experience with hCG monotherapy for symptomatic testosterone deficiency at … How did you feel on both? HCG is taken post cycle as part of a PCT regime to get your body back to (near) normal function. After about a year of Trt ur nuts are so dormat. hCG has also been shown to improve sperm quantity in men on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) who typically have no sperm due to TRT’s effects on shutting down testicular function. Very few people actually need ED drugs -- generally only prostate cancer patients. We sought to evaluate serum testosterone response and duration of therapy of hCG monotherapy for men with symptoms of hypogonadism, but total testosterone levels > 300 ng/dL. I've didnt know HCG was used as part of HRT. in essence its the only real test booster there is. If using TRT, then the approach recommended is 250IU of HCG taken as an intramuscular injection (IM) daily. you are under a Dr's supervision and 50 years from now every man will be taking test at age 34. I started TRT and HCG when I was 29. ... Testosterone: The male sex hormone. It's bad because it encourages pharmaceutical companies to spend money on marketing these drugs, instead of developing new drugs that actually cure or prevent diseases. Did you start with HCG monotherapy and then end up on TRT? 5. Anyways, I stopped monotherapy after getting my total T over 700 but not feeling any better since my BAT only went up to 140. There's always that one dislike! 50 years from now every man will be taking test at age 34. We sought to evaluate serum testosterone response and duration of therapy of hCG monotherapy for men with symptoms of hypogonadism, but total testosterone levels > … For the men on TRT who already have high testosterone, this is because the precursor hormones that were depleted (the hormones necessary to synthesise testosterone naturally) have been replenished. HCG is amazing for libido while on TRT If you are on TRT especially if you are going to be on it long term IMO you need to be using Hcg for libido. Definitely in to hear some insight into the matter. Posted by 1 year ago. Threads 413 Messages 4.7K. Materials and methods: We performed a multi-institutional retrospective case series of men receiving hCG monotherapy for symptomatic hypogonadism. Feel best at 500IU Pregnyl by Organon PD. I was only taking 250iu sub-q, M-W-F. Just keep looking for a more reasonable physician--you'll find one. I am an otherwise healthy 28 year old man and I do want kids eventually … I'm 31 now. I think your doc is just being cautious with the HCG. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What were your symptoms and how do you feel now? HCG monotherapy. Dorian Yates, Testosterone & TRT at The Men's Health Clinic. "Low" is relative. I also find that HCG monotherapy is more effective than TRT monotherapy. After four years on and off Clomid, I am moving to HCG with an AI. For those on HCG monotherapy, this … I have never heard of hcg being used to produce the same effect as test. I got tested twice once was 117 and the other was 130, haven't taken anything yet. TRT is a waste of money and pharmaceutical companies are pouring money into marketing for it because it's poised to be the next viagra/cialis/ED drug. I ran a similar SERM, called Nolvadex for 4 weeks back in December. Anyone try to take a break from blasting and cruising and either come off to give body a break (which I did once and would never do again, felt like death) or go on hcg monotherapy to get balls back in action etc. When I am using depot testosterone, in addition to HCG, I find that the benefits from HCG are largely masked? We'll see how it goes. I feel a lot better since I started this treatment, but I do want to feel optimal. Clomid Clomiphene Citrate For Men on TRT / Clomid Guide Dosage TRT Testosterone Replacement therapy. 300iu EOD + .05mg arimidex EOD. It helps to maintain fertility, testicular and penis size, cognitive function, and libido whilst on TRT. You could go to another T clinic and they'll give you a shot the same day. Honestly, i'd jsut get the test. Likewise, very few people actually need steroids -- hypogonadism is not that common. Hcg mono works, somewhat. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone levels. Loaded question, but anyone ever do a successful Hpta restart? On hcg mono @1500iu/week, I got to about 840ng, slightly higher free test. I tried to get testosterone at a T-Clinic and the Dr said my levels are low but thinks I am to young to be on test and recommended putting me on HCG injections instead. For those on HCG monotherapy, this is because their testosterone levels are higher. Test and hcg can and often are run simultaneously. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I have come across many misinformed docs. I think there is something going on as I was in a clinic yesterday that said they are using HCG, one today that had marked it off their list of services and was looking into another that uses gonadorelin. Assuming you did lose fertility, which I think the majority of people do on TRT without it HCG. But it wore off and became less effective, even the blood work started going below normal. The searches on Google points to the dietary b.s. Millions of people who do not need ED drugs currently take them because drug companies want profits, and it looks like TRT is heading in the same direction. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone levels. When I started TRT a few years back, I did not know much and I went on this dose of HCG … The best treatment option for you depends on your age and interest in fertility. HCG 101: Real Talk on Hypogonadism & Human Chorionic Gonadotropin - John Doe Bodybuilding August 11, 2016 at 10:01 am […] There are two ways to use HCG while cycling and 2 ways to use it while on long-term testosterone replacement therapy. Or just figure out how to order some on the internet. Two treatment options exist for men who want to boost their testosterone: bio-identical testosterone and human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG). HCG monotherapy. But, even with HCG, my ballzinos have gotten smaller. If you don't mind me asking what was test # before and after you were put on test ? I've tried everything at one point or another, TRT, Clomiphene therapy, but the thing that worked the best was HCG by itself (monotherapy). BACKGROUND: Administration of human chornionic gonadotropin (hCG) is an FDA approved treatment for hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism. My first doctor said if I am experiencing the effects of low T, he would prescribe even if my levels were normal. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone levels. Does anyone have experience with HCG injections to increase test ? We will go over this in easy to understand laymen’s terms with simple analogies to help you understand HCG in association to how the male endocrine system works. My recommendation is to find another clinic. I tried to get testosterone at a T-Clinic and the Dr said my levels are low but thinks I am to young to be on test and … It is essential to know that HCG is also used to increase the testicular size if one has used anabolic steroid or testosterone for a long time. Plus you already have to pin yourself and keep it cold, which is more of a hassle than test, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the Testosterone community. hCG stimulates the testicles to produce testosterone and unlike testosterone therapy, preserves fertility and testicular volume. If you are using HCG alone, according to the study above where it was directly compared to TRT, the dose was 2000 IU per week. 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